tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058766287077382431.post8865573257487756695..comments2024-03-23T04:01:39.348-04:00Comments on Understanding Society: Consensus and mutual understandingDan Littlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15953897221283103880noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058766287077382431.post-82458512648688855132018-04-15T09:51:51.145-04:002018-04-15T09:51:51.145-04:00While it does not necessarily offer a decision-mak...While it does not necessarily offer a decision-making "solution," we might go back to your discussion of Latour's "Reassembling the Social" and recognize the need to implement a rigorous pedagogy of questioning that would help with the problem of facticity for everything from material to psychological aspects of the collaborative, deliberative process. After many years working on the topic of and in collaborative groups, I find that ignoring the dynamics (some of which you describe in the blog post -- dominance, opining as fact, and even social or economic hierarchies-- keep a discussion moving in ever-tightening circles. I wonder if it's possible to integrate an ideal that comes up with specific solutions and leaves aside generalizations, while still practically creating situated forms of governance that can abide with the continual suspension of final outcomes as Latour, Isabelle Stengers, Felix Guattari, and others recommend. Thank you for the interesting blog post and the chance to respond.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09911840842875593423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058766287077382431.post-23620190824768492702018-04-08T17:52:27.081-04:002018-04-08T17:52:27.081-04:00I completely agree with this post. When people dis...I completely agree with this post. When people disagree on things, I see two major causes: either 1. people are not clear on the proposition being argued over 2. people are not clear about the evidence and reasons behind their belief.<br /><br />My solution is to create a formal method of making beliefs transparent. I wrote a blog post here: http://econanalysistools.blogspot.com/2018/02/belief-analysis-formal-method.html<br /><br />Thanks for the post. I'm glad to see that you also see this as a major issue.Alex Peekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16599952608457953713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4058766287077382431.post-18941689649901507552018-03-05T10:12:37.418-05:002018-03-05T10:12:37.418-05:00I think there already exists such a philosophy - e...I think there already exists such a philosophy - economic model making. Models are ways of constraining exploratory discussions with a framework of transparent assumptions about the world.<br /><br />This becomes much clearer in a military setting where planning is conducted within fixed protocol (common model 1) and then interrogated and rehearsed in public forum (common model 2) often on a giant physical model with actors playing role parts.<br /><br />This has the effect of integrating the collective mind, but as then say 'no plan survives contact with the enemy'Hugo Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705056750207255618noreply@blogger.com